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stevefoster
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Location: Hants (north), Berkshire or Surrey
Posted - 11 August 2005 19:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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The results are in:-

Brent’s Duratec SV 7 weighed 702kgs inc Driver and fuel. Driver weighs 85kgs. Fuel 32 kgs. Car alone 585kgs.
(Spec, full screen, sidescreens, S type seats, Freestyle front suspension, some trick bits to reduce weight).

Neil’s K series SV 7 696kg inc Driver and fuel, Driver weighs 100kgs. Fuel ~7kgs. Car alone 589kgs.
(Spec, Aeroscreen, S type seats no front number plateblushing smiley).

Ben’s CSR 7 weighed 697kg inc Driver and fuel. Driver weighs 66kgs. Fuel ~25kgs. Car alone 606kgs.
(Spec, full screen and side screens, Dry sump, Tillets).

Den’s K series 7 weighed 630kgs inc Driver and fuel. Driver weighs 68kgs. Fuel ~15kgs. Car alone 547kgs.
(Spec, Aeroscreen, Dry sump, Tillets, cage)

All weighed on my homemade system. See Area pics for online photos taken by Peter Duce.
Den's 7 was also weighed recently by Freestyle's kit at Silverstone and was only 1kg difference to my system last night. Fuel is always the variable of course...
Note the use of bricks for the extra SV / CSR lengthwink smiley

The best I ever got my VX down to was 525kgs (no fuel), race wheels and slicks.

Fun comparing and settling the arguementsmiley


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Updated to reflect more accurate fuel weight in Brent's 7...

Edited by - stevefoster on 12 Aug 2005 14:27:37
Dirty Den
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Posted - 11 August 2005 21:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Thanks Steve thumbs up

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The best I ever got my VX down to was 525kgs (no fuel), race wheels and slicks.

Sounds like the gauntlet has been laid down, wonder how much I can save without the stickers? toothy smiley

Den

http://www.dens7.co.uk

Edited by - Dirty Den on 11 Aug 2005 21:07:04
LazerBrain
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Location: Berks
Posted - 12 August 2005 10:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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I reckon going to a single digit racing number is worth a few grammes toothy smiley

Wouldn't mind getting my car weighed at some point to find out just how lardy a comfortable normal road spec car really is.

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Darren.
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Posted - 12 August 2005 10:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Mine was 580kg including 1/2 tank of fuel when weighed at Emerald a few years ago.

Bed and Den (sound like ice cream men) need to eat more chips and sossiges. wink smiley

Roy.

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Happiness is knowing you have just a tad too much powerwink smiley
neil.cavanagh
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Posted - 12 August 2005 10:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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also note the the two SVs had spare wheels on, whilst the CSR was running on gunk.

I'm also disputing the weight of fuel in Brents! He must have that special long range tank in to get 39KG in! toothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smiley
neil.cavanagh
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Posted - 12 August 2005 10:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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ps I'm not sure someone only weighint 85kg qualifies to drive and SV, let along a wimpy 66kg in a CSR!!
Dirty Den
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Posted - 12 August 2005 10:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Bed and Den (sound like ice cream men) need to eat more chips and sossiges.

We would, but Brent "intercepted" them as they were bought out by the landlord. Must have played rugby when he was younger wink smiley toothy smiley

Den

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MikeE
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Location: Fleet, Hampshire
Posted - 12 August 2005 14:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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My Duratec slim-line R400, with aero and SLR cage weighed 524kg (including 10litres of fuel, so what's that dry, 514ish?) at FreeStyle recently so I'm surprised at Den's K-series figure?

Interestinglyconfused smiley if you compare the full laiden (same fuel, same driver) power to weight ratio of the CSR (260bhp/697kg) and my car (225bhp/605kg) then you get 373 and 372bhp/tonnethumbs up

Now if I go for that Raceline 265bhp upgrade then I get 265bhp/605kg = 438bhp/tonneidea smiley

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Edited by - MikeE on 12 Aug 2005 14:01:57
Dirty Den
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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My Duratec slim-line R400, with aero and SLR cage weighed 524kg (including 10litres of fuel, so what's that dry, 514ish?) at FreeStyle recently so I'm surprised at Den's K-series figure?

Blimey Mike, that's light! I thought my car was light and I guess it is compared to most Ks, but now I'm wondering if it's a bit of a porker sad smiley

Hmm, time to put the car on a diet I guess.

Den

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robmar
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Den - it sounds like a porker, my superlight with fullish tank of petrol was 524 on steves scales, so that I reckon is around 500ish when in sprint spec (less petrol and mb rims)

slr cage, aero, carbon etc

robsmiley
Dirty Den
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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I need a crying smiley sad smiley thumbs down

I really can't think of anything that I can do to save much weight - OK, I could put CF wings on, but what's the saving over the GRP parts - couple of kilos?

I guess the main weight is the tyres (Yoko 32Rs) and the minilites. I can see that Mike has CR500s and the 10 spoke anthracite wheels, but I like the really soft Yokos.

Den sad smiley

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stevefoster
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Updated to correct Brent's fuel load.
So really Neil's 7 and Brent's are pretty much identical in weight. Don't you just love a close run thing toothy smiley

Den, I'd find ways... You even have double number plates and a reversing lamp for heavens saketoothy smiley

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Edited by - stevefoster on 12 Aug 2005 15:54:55
MikeE
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Actually I had my MB mag rims and ACB10s on when it was weighed. I don't think mines particularly light though - I'd like to try and get it down to 500 kgs dry if I can.

R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here
LazerBrain
Yawn.....

Location: Berks
Posted - 12 August 2005 14:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Should I come clean about the 10kg weight in Den's power connector box? toothy smiley

cheers,

Darren.
stevefoster
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Posted - 12 August 2005 14:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Den,
My Minilights + Yoko's were ~50kgs a set.
My 6.5" R500 wheels and 7" ACB0's or ACB10 are ~30kgs a set.

There's 20kgs immediately for you Den!

A set of 6X13" 10 spokes and CR500's to fit weigh 42kgs...

You have the cage that weights the same as FIA + Petty strut + you have the wheel intrusion bar a further 2.5 kgs. Plus you have lowered floor + honeycomb?
AND all those stickerstoothy smiley

Carbon Tillet's bolted to the floor vs GRP Tillet's and seat runners will save you a further 6kgs...

It can be done but costs!

Hants (north) / Berkshire club here
Area meeting pics here
My Racing here


Edited by - stevefoster on 12 Aug 2005 14:47:01
Brent Chiswick
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Posted - 12 August 2005 15:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message

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Been VERY busy today so haven't contributed to B/Chat yet. I just love Neils whingeing complaints even though he's forgotten the fact that I have a full screen so factor in another 6kgs for his car which makes the difference even greater.toothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smiley

You just know I was right all along now Neil me old mucker, and my car has now been proven to be lighter by the fair minded Mr F.

Duratecs ARE lighter and more powerful................FACTtoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smileytoothy smiley

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Brent

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